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  • Does having more girth, make it harder to gain length?

    I read in a few posts that one should aim for length before girth and that it would be easier to gain length if you have less girth. It's like gaining girth, makes it harder to gain length. I focused on girth and the gains seem to be coming in easy. Does this mean that I'm going to have a harder time gaining length due to increased resistance because of the added girth? Oddly enough this has been my experience. What do you think?
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  • #2
    Some think this is true, others think you can do both at the same time or alternate between the two. Nobody really can say for sure, it's one of the great unknowns of PE. Here's an interesting thread on this subject:

    https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-e...gth-gains.html
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    • #3
      ^ Good read.
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      • #4
        I started with about 5 1/2" of girth and just under 7" length. I pretty quickly came to the conclusion that I wasn't going to add much length. I added perhaps 1/4". Meanwhile I did add about another inch to my mid erect girth. I quit trying for length years ago, and even though my jelqing sessions are intense with strong pulling pressure being applied to my unit, I continue to gain nothing in length.
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        • #5
          rbi99, did u measure your starting BEG? 7.2 is huge. Did u go all the way from 5.5 BEG to 7.2 BEG?

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          • #6
            From reading threads on here for the past few months there seemed to be a common theme running through them, either someone found it easy to gain length or girth but rarely both of them (a few lucky strange anomalies). That is a cool read that Steneo linked you to, I would also recommend reading this, some interesting ideas and a collection of guy's experience on the matter: https://www.pegym.com/forums/pe-theo...th-second.html

            It is hard to tell the science behind it, as with a lot of PE, but we can hope to get people's personal experience in the area/what worked for them, in order to establish some empirical data in the area. For my very limited personal experience of PE so far, length has been fine with gaining but girth seems to be really difficult despite focusing a lot on manual girth work.
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            • #7
              I remember wanting to chime in on that older thread on this topic, but I was busy at he time.

              This may be a dumb question, and I might have to reread it all again, but, isn't saying that girth will hinder length gains similar to saying that big muscles in your legs will hinder increasing those muscles, because it will require more force? You can just use heavier weights, no?

              In the case of PE, couldn't you just hang heavier weights from your dick, or extend with more force? Am I missing something?

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              • #8
                The post on math that you mentioned refers to theories. We should be using actual tissue stretching examples to base our research on.

                Girth work should make gaining length easier. You're pre-exhausting the tunica beforehand, which should make stretching immediately afterwards even more productive.
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                • #9
                  I think girth hinders pure length gains, but not volume gains. For example if im 5 bpel and 5 mseg, for the sake of math, and I gain one inch in length, then my total volume is increasing by 20% or to be precise, Penis length gained x penis radial girth squared x pi. in this 5x5 example, the radial girth is 2.5 inches. If I was 5x6, however, it would be 3 inches. So adding an inch of length at 5" girth adds .5"^2 less total volume than an inch of length at 6" girth. If you want a visual aid, look at the penis volume calculator on mraverage.com.

                  Hope that helps.

                  Edit** as Big Al said, it's only a theory.
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                  • #10
                    Thank you guys for the great links. Big Al, I have bookmarked a thread where you talked about this theory and I'm actually transferring most of my length work to after my girth work. I wish I had seen these threads sooner though. They are axiomatic, but then, the obvious tends to be more illusive most of the time.

                    I have gained 0.6" in MSEG so far; and since I have achieved my girth goal, I want to focus more on length. I have only been able to gain 0.5" in length and it's getting really hard to continue with my manual stretching. My hands get really sore and I can't apply the required pressure for over 30-40 seconds. From what I've gathered it's more a matter of inability to exert sufficient force on the tunica that hinders length gains than a biological limit. Since I'm having a hard time getting it done by hand, I'm considering hanging or maybe getting a stretcher. I'm thinking hanging applies pressure to the ligs which will be more facile to gain length through as opposed to a stretcher that targets the tunica. I would really love some feedback on that.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by kirkoloft View Post
                      Thank you guys for the great links. Big Al, I have bookmarked a thread where you talked about this theory and I'm actually transferring most of my length work to after my girth work. I wish I had seen these threads sooner though. They are axiomatic, but then, the obvious tends to be more illusive most of the time.

                      I have gained 0.6" in MSEG so far; and since I have achieved my girth goal, I want to focus more on length. I have only been able to gain 0.5" in length and it's getting really hard to continue with my manual stretching. My hands get really sore and I can't apply the required pressure for over 30-40 seconds. From what I've gathered it's more a matter of inability to exert sufficient force on the tunica that hinders length gains than a biological limit. Since I'm having a hard time getting it done by hand, I'm considering hanging or maybe getting a stretcher. I'm thinking hanging applies pressure to the ligs which will be more facile to gain length through as opposed to a stretcher that targets the tunica. I would really love some feedback on that.
                      Thanks

                      In your case, hanging might work very well. You should give yourself some time to adjust to the standard 3x20 hanging routine, then you can experiment with heavy hanging for repetitions or some other types of higher intensity techniques.
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                      • #12
                        I have been more of a lurker than an active poster since joining here but that is mostly due to not really having much to add. However the problem that some have with maintaining a grip for manual stretching is something I struggled with pretty much the whole time I did the jp90 routine.

                        About 10 weeks in I started using toilet paper as a wrap for manual stretching and it made an incredible improvement in my ability to maintain a comfortable grip and fight hand fatigue.

                        I use a 5-6 square length piece of TP folded lengthwise and wrap it around the base of my glans. The other edge ends up right at my circumcision scar. With a little experimenting you may want more or less TP to suit your comfort level.

                        I can now easily hold a manual stretch in most any direction or fulcrum point for 2-3 minutes before my hand starts to tire. I have tried pieces of nylon running shorts and Lycra as well but they don't work as well (at least for me).

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                        • #13
                          Yea, I've had difficulty gaining length as well. Began with 5.75" MEG and gained about 0.5" in length, which occurred within the first month so I'm not entirely certain that they weren't just EQ gains. Since then I haven't gained anything in length. I haven't gained much in MEG either, but have gained about 0.5" in BEG from 5.5" to 6", which could be attributed to the length work from what I hear.

                          I would like to try hanging and extending, but one, the idea of attaching weights to my penis doesn't sit well to me, and two, I'm concerned that the extender will not hide well underneath my clothes. I'm short and have tree trunk thighs, which cause my dick and balls to sit out in front of my body rather than between my legs, and I'm concerned that having the extender will only compound that effect.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ThinJohnny View Post
                            rbi99, did u measure your starting BEG? 7.2 is huge. Did u go all the way from 5.5 BEG to 7.2 BEG?
                            I started off pretty much 5 1/2" from bottom to top. Like others here who are real long or real thick, it doesn't seem like a big deal because we are used to it. Also, being 6'5" removes some of that "wow" factor. Think about it, how often have you seen guys with hard ons in real life (not movies). For me, the answer is zero. The only guys I have seen have been in the shower room and obviously no one was erect!!! So numbers are nice and all, but we really aren't comparing ourselves to others except with numbers on paper. For me, I'm happily married and have been so for a long time, and my wife can handle me with no problems at all, even though she is only 5'5" tall. If I was younger and unmarried I am sure I would have partners that couldn't handle me very well (I tried putting a 6" girth dildo in my mouth just to see if I could, barely got the head in. Handed it to my wife and she popped it in like it was nothing). I know I have a lot of girth, but it really isn't a big deal to me. As for the original direction of this thread, I definitely feel that my girth stopped length gains (I won't hang or pump because I don't want to get into that stuff).
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                            • #15
                              Not for me. It makes it easier to do different grips. Sure, I have to support the sheer mass of the thing, which gets tougher with more length and girth, but my ligaments and erections are super strong from doing erect exercises.
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