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    So Iíve been at this extender thing for 6 months with no real gains in bpfsl . Bpel increased a bit interestingly but nothing major. So most of these months while extending I extended at very low tension say 400 to 600 grams roughly. Out of curiosity decided to for an hour extend maxed out so maybe 1200 grams (penimaster pro ) and I finally felt a bit of soreness. Not the kind of soreness thatís bad Ö. Just the kind of feeling you get like when you pull just right with manual PE . I canít help but wonder if maybe some people just need more and most people less . What I noticed was that with low tension Iíd get actual pain and no real pull Ö. In fact my dick felt firmer as if it was easily adapted to the low tension but once pushed higher I actually felt good bit of pull /soreness and tension plus my dick feels stretchier . I always noticed as well with low tension I was never getting stretched passed my bpel, so perhaps that would explain the lack of gains ? Whatever the case, Iíll keep trying it out to see what works . I went to a doctor initially seeking lipo and they told me I had excessive skin as well in my mons area from when I lost 50+ pounds a couple years ago and thatís something Iím also working on Ö..

  • #2
    I'm an advocate for giving things a good stretch. Low volume and low intensity never worked for me.
    https://www.pegym.com/forums/progres...bulge-log.html


    Start - 20/05/18.

    BPEL - 6.75
    EG - 5.00

    Current stats.

    25/4/20 BPEL - 8.35 "
    EG - 5.7 "

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    • #3
      Bpel is usually around half an inch shorter than flaccid length. Measure your bpfsl and try to extend towards that number. You should feel very good stretch.
      Start 7.28 x 4.88 Current 8.11 x 5.43

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Pound_per_inch View Post
        I'm an advocate for giving things a good stretch. Low volume and low intensity never worked for me.
        I had the same experience.

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        • #5
          Sometimes more may be better?
          Sounds more like you're trying to justify that more is better... in an effort to escalate and prolong your dick-lengthening goals. I can see that others seem to agree that more can sometimes be better (specifically for the hanging thing). But I am going to respectfully disagree with them (and with you) on how that applies to the bigger picture.

          I've heard a little bit about you from previous postings. The impression I get is that you are generally unhappy with yourself. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I sense that your PE efforts are a way for you to eliminate negative feelings about yourself. According to you, your current size makes you feel 'pathetic'. By being bigger than average, you say to yourself, you will finally feel adequate. Coupled with this are your efforts to lose weight through liposuction procedures you've been looking into. I can understand how obesity can also play a factor in feeling negative about the self... so I think I can imagine how difficult it must be for you to cope with all that.

          As for more is better - in a big picture context? Ask yourself if you want to double your time devoted to PE. As yourself if you want to multiply self-critical thoughts and feelings so long as you don't achieve your size goals. Ask yourself if you want to burn a hole through your wallet by recklessly spending hard-earned money on PE paraphernalia and surgical interventions that could potentially be avoided (i.e. the liposuction versus longer but safer alternatives). From the perspective of an uninvolved observer like myself, the 'more is better' policy looks TERRIBLY COSTLY on a financial, mental, and TIME level. Time may not seem like a great deal when you're 20 years old, but time is a limited resource that flies by sooner than you think. There are many a great thing you can do to feel better about yourself; none of it will ever come from pulling longer and harder on your peen.

          I believe someone (in a previous thread) suggested you desist from doing any PE, and focus instead on learning self-acceptance and to engage in other pursuits/hobbies that generate positive feelings. I think that was very wise advice. Speaking for myself, I remember a time that size was never an issue until I became conscious of it in my early 20's when I was exposed to porn. Also, trash culture values would repeat the same warped message that "bigger is better". Warped messages are powerful. They fuel anxieties and insecurities. But realize that they are just bad mind programming... and as easy as they come, it is also possible to let them go and walk away. Just remember this: you were put on this Earth to be YOU, regardless of physical attributes or personality traits. I've known of people who've lost three limbs... Life will throw challenges and difficulties along the way. Learn to accept your body (and your average cock), just like the amputated have learned to accept life without legs. Then, and only THEN, should you consider improving it.

          Much love,

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          • #6
            Originally posted by BlueMorpho View Post
            Sounds more like you're trying to justify that more is better... in an effort to escalate and prolong your dick-lengthening goals. I can see that others seem to agree that more can sometimes be better (specifically for the hanging thing). But I am going to respectfully disagree with them (and with you) on how that applies to the bigger picture.

            I've heard a little bit about you from previous postings. The impression I get is that you are generally unhappy with yourself. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I sense that your PE efforts are a way for you to eliminate negative feelings about yourself. According to you, your current size makes you feel 'pathetic'. By being bigger than average, you say to yourself, you will finally feel adequate. Coupled with this are your efforts to lose weight through liposuction procedures you've been looking into. I can understand how obesity can also play a factor in feeling negative about the self... so I think I can imagine how difficult it must be for you to cope with all that.

            As for more is better - in a big picture context? Ask yourself if you want to double your time devoted to PE. As yourself if you want to multiply self-critical thoughts and feelings so long as you don't achieve your size goals. Ask yourself if you want to burn a hole through your wallet by recklessly spending hard-earned money on PE paraphernalia and surgical interventions that could potentially be avoided (i.e. the liposuction versus longer but safer alternatives). From the perspective of an uninvolved observer like myself, the 'more is better' policy looks TERRIBLY COSTLY on a financial, mental, and TIME level. Time may not seem like a great deal when you're 20 years old, but time is a limited resource that flies by sooner than you think. There are many a great thing you can do to feel better about yourself; none of it will ever come from pulling longer and harder on your peen.

            I believe someone (in a previous thread) suggested you desist from doing any PE, and focus instead on learning self-acceptance and to engage in other pursuits/hobbies that generate positive feelings. I think that was very wise advice. Speaking for myself, I remember a time that size was never an issue until I became conscious of it in my early 20's when I was exposed to porn. Also, trash culture values would repeat the same warped message that "bigger is better". Warped messages are powerful. They fuel anxieties and insecurities. But realize that they are just bad mind programming... and as easy as they come, it is also possible to let them go and walk away. Just remember this: you were put on this Earth to be YOU, regardless of physical attributes or personality traits. I've known of people who've lost three limbs... Life will throw challenges and difficulties along the way. Learn to accept your body (and your average cock), just like the amputated have learned to accept life without legs. Then, and only THEN, should you consider improving it.

            Much love,
            Out of curiosity, why do you attack someone for just trying to do what literally every other person on this forum is trying to do ? Letís just get some facts out, Iím not obese I was once very over weight but no Iím not obese . I was unfortunate to have a thick fat pad that Iím also trying to get down. I think you should consider maybe not being condescending as well. Average may be fine for anyone else but no Iím not happy with it . Thatís the reason why I started doing this . When I started I took the advice of doing less and have never gained that way . Hints the reason Iíve decided to go ahead and up the intensity. One thing about me as a person is I donít just give up because some rude person tells me to give up .that just makes me want to prove you wrong. I find a way . Now I know a bunch of these supposed experts like to just say give up give up or keep doing it this way but how about if I asked you To give it up ? If Iím being honest I consider it a slap in the face especially because even when I was down I tell myself at least Iím 6.5ish nbel so donít call me average dude Iíll be my own judge or whoever Iím in bed with will be the judge.because quite frankly I think itís a joke to say 6 to 7 nbel is just average. Btw more as in more intensity not more money . F that Iíve got a life and job outside this and loans to pay so no Iím not spending a penny more on PE equipment. I knew right when I decided to give this another go that someone would try to be negative in this forum . And I want to emphasize that Iím not over weight 5-10 and 145 to 150 pounds isnít fat but as Iíve said, I have a lot of pubic fat still taking away from my nbel which is the only reason I brought up pubic lipo .

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            • #7
              Hello Johnra,
              I'm glad you answered, and from what you argued you seem to have put a lot of thought into it. I think that's just the whole point of my writing: to spark a discussion about why we decide to PE in the first place. Maybe you felt my post was condescending or maybe it felt like a personal attack. Let me reassure you, that was certainly not my intention. Anyway, to answer your questions/comments...

              Originally posted by Johnra2000 View Post
              One thing about me as a person is I don’t just give up because some rude person tells me to give up .that just makes me want to prove you wrong. I find a way.
              I don't think I or that other person (on different thread) were trying to be rude by suggesting you take a break from PE. The idea we wanted to communicate was: love thyself first. Then, when you have come to that point, you can feel free to engage in improving size. Notice that neither of us said "don't do PE for a year or 5, until you can find self-acceptance". Replacing negative self-views with positive ones can take as short a time as a day! Big Al has written several articles about the right attitude to have before engaging in PE (in order to maximize the potential to gain). If you can't find them, just PM him.

              Originally posted by Johnra2000 View Post
              ... how about if I asked you To give it up ?
              Actually, I HAVE given up on the exercises. I joined the forum in early June, started a regular routine. But then in July I reassessed my objectives and decided PE wasn't for me. I still hang around here posting from time to time, but write about different topics, mostly about the psychological aspects as to why we want a bigger cock (for example). I find it helpful to write about these things because it is a way to get over the anxieties and insecurities that made me want to be 'big'. Yeah, I'm kind of an oddball in a sense... but I'm not trying to stop other people from doing PE (besides, how is that even possible!!). Just getting them to think about things.

              On the other hand, there may have been others who have suggested you stop and they themselves are still doing PE. I know it sounds contradictory, but they are only trying to help you change the focus from: "I NEED to be bigger!" towards: "Being bigger would be nice!". Notice the second attitude: if you gain, great; otherwise no problem. The first attitude: "I need" puts an incredible amount of pressure (read: stress) on you to get results. And as we know, stress is a gain killer. So when some members suggest you take a break from PE, it is in the hope that you won't be thinking too much about needing to be big (i.e. changing the attitude). At least, that's what I think they mean by that.

              Originally posted by Johnra2000 View Post
              If I’m being honest I consider it a slap in the face especially because even when I was down I tell myself at least I’m 6.5ish nbel so don’t call me average dude I’ll be my own judge or whoever I’m in bed with will be the judge.because quite frankly I think it’s a joke to say 6 to 7 nbel is just average.
              I'm sorry you feel that way. I understand that you have set goals to become bigger, and congratulations for taking steps to get there... but why is the idea of being 'average' sound so horrible to you? Depending on which statistics you look at, anywhere between 5.5 to 6.5 inches is in the average range. So if you are above that, then that makes you "above average". When in my previous post I said: "Accept your body and your average cock", I wasn't passing judgment on your peen. It was about accepting whatever you've got, be it small, average or large.

              Take care,

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              • #8
                Originally posted by BlueMorpho View Post
                Sounds more like you're trying to justify that more is better... in an effort to escalate and prolong your dick-lengthening goals. I can see that others seem to agree that more can sometimes be better (specifically for the hanging thing). But I am going to respectfully disagree with them (and with you) on how that applies to the bigger picture.

                I've heard a little bit about you from previous postings. The impression I get is that you are generally unhappy with yourself. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I sense that your PE efforts are a way for you to eliminate negative feelings about yourself. According to you, your current size makes you feel 'pathetic'. By being bigger than average, you say to yourself, you will finally feel adequate. Coupled with this are your efforts to lose weight through liposuction procedures you've been looking into. I can understand how obesity can also play a factor in feeling negative about the self... so I think I can imagine how difficult it must be for you to cope with all that.

                As for more is better - in a big picture context? Ask yourself if you want to double your time devoted to PE. As yourself if you want to multiply self-critical thoughts and feelings so long as you don't achieve your size goals. Ask yourself if you want to burn a hole through your wallet by recklessly spending hard-earned money on PE paraphernalia and surgical interventions that could potentially be avoided (i.e. the liposuction versus longer but safer alternatives). From the perspective of an uninvolved observer like myself, the 'more is better' policy looks TERRIBLY COSTLY on a financial, mental, and TIME level. Time may not seem like a great deal when you're 20 years old, but time is a limited resource that flies by sooner than you think. There are many a great thing you can do to feel better about yourself; none of it will ever come from pulling longer and harder on your peen.

                I believe someone (in a previous thread) suggested you desist from doing any PE, and focus instead on learning self-acceptance and to engage in other pursuits/hobbies that generate positive feelings. I think that was very wise advice. Speaking for myself, I remember a time that size was never an issue until I became conscious of it in my early 20's when I was exposed to porn. Also, trash culture values would repeat the same warped message that "bigger is better". Warped messages are powerful. They fuel anxieties and insecurities. But realize that they are just bad mind programming... and as easy as they come, it is also possible to let them go and walk away. Just remember this: you were put on this Earth to be YOU, regardless of physical attributes or personality traits. I've known of people who've lost three limbs... Life will throw challenges and difficulties along the way. Learn to accept your body (and your average cock), just like the amputated have learned to accept life without legs. Then, and only THEN, should you consider improving it.

                Much love,
                You'll have to afford me being a little pedantic here.

                The OP is asking, is more 'sometimes' better, the only fair and honest answer is yes.

                I've been round the block with PE now and I'm hard pushed to see where I've gone wrong to the point of detriment.

                In the period I've been here I've read people tickling the unit with a wet wipe expecting to see some growth after their 4 days rest before the next tickle session. I've also read people thinking about trying to tow their car 10 meters on their bellends...

                However, different stroke for different folks, but I'm going to put my option here based on my own and most other people who I've read gains... You need to put in a stretch that counts.
                https://www.pegym.com/forums/progres...bulge-log.html


                Start - 20/05/18.

                BPEL - 6.75
                EG - 5.00

                Current stats.

                25/4/20 BPEL - 8.35 "
                EG - 5.7 "

                Comment


                • #9
                  Originally posted by Pound_per_inch View Post
                  You'll have to afford me being a little pedantic here.

                  The OP is asking, is more 'sometimes' better, the only fair and honest answer is yes.

                  I've been round the block with PE now and I'm hard pushed to see where I've gone wrong to the point of detriment.

                  In the period I've been here I've read people tickling the unit with a wet wipe expecting to see some growth after their 4 days rest before the next tickle session. I've also read people thinking about trying to tow their car 10 meters on their bellends...

                  However, different stroke for different folks, but I'm going to put my option here based on my own and most other people who I've read gains... You need to put in a stretch that counts.
                  Yep, again, Pound_per_inch. Well put: A stretch that counts.

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                  • #10
                    Training is an individual pursuit which requires experimentation with different types of training in order to determine what works best.

                    From a statistical perspective, a sizeable majority seem to gain best with moderately intense work. Those who have better than average conditioning and don't respond well to higher intensity training tend to do better with lower intensity training. This lower intensity/higher volume type training can range from light hanging- to extender work- to ADS wearing. Very light manual stretching and jelqs can also be counted in this category.
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