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  • is there a limit to gains?

    will you gain as long as you do the routine or is there a limit to gains?
    whats the average gain?

  • #2
    Sky is the limit.
    There is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by megastan View Post
      will you gain as long as you do the routine or is there a limit to gains?
      whats the average gain?
      Everyone is different. There is no way to possibly know if there is a limit because of genetics or due to improper programming.

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      • #4
        If you are talking about using a single routine then you will hit a plateau. To keep the gains coming you progressively need to advance into some of the advanced routines, exercises or devices to keep the gains coming.

        A big variable that makes it difficult to determine the average gain is the level of of dedication and perseverance between individuals. Some will make some gains, loose dedication and stop. Others stay committed and continue on to making bigger gains. It's like comparing apples to oranges.
        To totally satisfy a woman sexually is not about having a large penis, it's about being a good lover.

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        • #5
          I agree with Cavalier and BBC. Itís really tough to gauge. Especially after beginner gains. Everyone slows for and hits a plateau. The key is discovering how your tissues respond to the exercises. Always change up the routine if your body tells you itís time. Or take breaks if your body tells you itís time.
          Start 9/30/18: NPBEL - 7.14" / MSEG - 5.25" - BEG - 5.5"/ EQ - 7/10 / BPEL - 8.15"

          Current: NBPEL - 7.5" / MSEG - 5.45" - BEG - 5.75" / EQ - 8/10 / BPEL - 8.5"

          Goal: NPBEL - 9.5" / MSEG - 6.5" - BEG - 7" / EQ 10/10 BPEL - 11"

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          • #6
            I was just posting this elsewhere on the ‘Gym before, but it is worth reposting here, I think.
            Based on reading into the biology of it and the anecdotal evidence onsite, here is my take:

            Based on the article "Penile Traction Therapy (Penile Lengthening Device)" in Penile Augmentation N.C. Park et al. (eds.), 2016.

            "Tissue growth occurs as a result of tissue adaptation in response to application of chronic traction...This process is thought to be cellular proliferation like the process of distraction osteogenesis resulting from bone lengthening procedures by using traction... Prolonged traction force on tissue results in an adaptation reaction at a cellular level, which thereby results in the expansion of the tissues."

            "Therefore, the use of traction device is not just to stretch the tissue mechanically, but to actually induce tissue growth to make real gain of additional penile length"

            Tissue growth due to

            "Mechanotransduction is a cellular signal transduction in response to mechanical stimuli, which resulted in modulating almost all aspects of cell function, including cell growth, differentiation, migration, gene expression, protein synthesis, and apoptosis...It is thought tissue growing against chronic traction is one of the tissue protective mechanisms to try to loss of mechanical strength by subsequent collagen degradation...In addition, depolymerization of collagen fibers by increase in degradative enzymes induced not only weakening of the fibers by collagen degradation but the increase in newly synthesized collagen, which resulted in providing the extension of the tissue without trauma."

            So, if we do this in cycles that to allow the tissue to heal, grow and recover we can keep gaining.

            Meaning do some manual work, make gains, cement gains, take break, heal, start again, etc. The body adjusts to the “new normal”, then when you start again there is potential to keep making more gains.

            Theoretically, if you don't stop and allow the body to heal and adjust to the new normal, then maybe you get stuck at a certain level, or a plateau, because you are not allowing for the tissue to heal/grow.
            03/2015 Start <Able to last ~ 2 mins PIV>
            Thread
            12/2019 EL: +2.2 MEG: +1 <Able to last 60+ mins PIV>

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            • #7
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              • #8
                Law of diminishing returns. Will slow down for all of us eventually...just some faster than others. Otherwise eventually we'd all have 24" dicks, lol.
                Original/Current Stats:
                2014-09-01: BPEL 6.8"/NBPEL 6" MEG 5.0", BPFL 5"/NBPFL 4" FG 4.4"
                2019-03-16: BPEL 8"/NBPEL 6.75" MEG 5.2", BPFL 6.75"/NBPFL 5.5" FG 4.5"

                Goals:
                Realistic: BPEL 8.5"/NBPEL 7.5" MEG 5.5"
                Optimistic: BPEL 9"/NBPEL 8" MEG 5.75"
                Dream: BPEL 10"/NBPEL 9" MEG 6.5"

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                • #9
                  how long would it take realistically to go from 7 to 8.5?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by megastan View Post
                    how long would it take realistically to go from 7 to 8.5?
                    Realistically? 2 years.
                    03/2015 Start <Able to last ~ 2 mins PIV>
                    Thread
                    12/2019 EL: +2.2 MEG: +1 <Able to last 60+ mins PIV>

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by MasterSchlort View Post
                      Sky is the limit.
                      Completely incorrect.

                      As with skeletal muscle exercise in the gym, gains will follow a logarithmic scale. At first they will come quickly, then they will slow down and become very slow. Eventually if you stick with it a long time (years) they will approach a point of diminishing returns where a lot of work is needed for just a very small additional gain. Now you could say that most people lack the dedication to get to that point which is probably true, but those who do make it there will likely switch to a maintenance routine at that point.

                      Starting size also plays a role. Someone who starts at 8 could probably reach 10 with a few years of consistent effort. Someone who starts at 5 is unlikely to be able to reach 10 no matter how much work is put in.
                      Last edited by abiggerone; 06-08-2019, 11:04 AM.
                      05/3/19: 6.25 BPEL, 5.75 NBPEL, 4.67 MSEG,
                      12/13/20: 7 BPEL, 6.38 NBPEL, 4.87 MSEG - 22% volume increase
                      05/15/21: 7.25 BPEL 6.63 NBPEL 5 MSEG - 32% volume increase
                      Short term goal: 7.5x5

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                      • #12
                        I saw in a reddit forum a guy who went from a micropenis (like 4cm) to a medium (15cm), with pics. Don't know if was true, but you can see the top performers here to have notion.

                        https://www.pegym.com/forums/success...erformers.html

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by justanormaldick View Post
                          I saw in a reddit forum a guy who went from a micropenis (like 4cm) to a medium (15cm), with pics. Don't know if was true, but you can see the top performers here to have notion.

                          https://www.pegym.com/forums/success...erformers.html
                          Do you happen to have a link of that? That sounds unbelieviable.

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                          • #14
                            There's also the phenomenon known as "Megalophallus".
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